People are funny.

Obviously, we all like to believe that we are on the correct side of the fence on every issue.  In order to believe that we are right, we have to develop a perspective of what people on the other side of that fence believe.  We have a choice when developing these perceptions.  Do we do it from a distance, or do we do our best to talk to people who disagree with us to get an understanding of WHY they believe what they believe?

Along these lines, Steve over at Rabid Sanity and Wiley Cody over at Big Sky Cairn have shown their preference.  They like to look at us from a distance.  They’ve convinced themselves that (almost) all Liberals hold certain beliefs for very specific reasons.  Here’s the part from Wiley’s post that initially got me riled up:

Steve quotes extensively from an article that attempts to make sweeping claims about liberal in general. In my personal experience, many of the claims he makes ring true. Liberals claim to be for the little guy, but wealth redistribution is really just a way to force someone else to take care of the little guy. They are often motivated by jealousy disguised as perceptions of social injustice. They preach diversity while trying to force everyone to live exactly like they do (and hatefully attacking those whose ideals vary).

My responses and Cody’s non-response follow in the comment thread.  He skirts the issue, as he does so often when I deal with him.

This kind of thought is typical of Cody.  He’s quick to characterize, and slow to show us examples.  It begs the question:  What kind of “personal experience” is he talking about?  Did he get a Democrat drunk enough one night to expose his true motives for believing the way he does?  Did this Democrat (probably an unwashed, jobless hippie), slur the words “I don’t really believe in Social programs, I just want a handout from the Government.  I’m also extremely jealous of wealthy people and am anxious to get some of their money for myself without having to work for it.  I’m also convinced that we should use Government to force the population to believe exactly as I do.  I’ve made a secret pact with all other Democrats to never reveal our true motives.”  Or could it be that Cody’s just pulling this stuff out of his ass?

Why are Cody and Steve so anxious to give us liberals some kind of sinister motives behind our belief system?  The answer seems pretty obvious to me:  It prevents them from having to give any thought to the issues at hand.  If you’re busy believing that the other side is perpetually lazy and dishonest, why do any of the necessary groundwork to give your own beliefs some basis in understanding the other side?  Why bother arguing with real people when you can just characterize them?  Here’s the money quote, from Steve:

Integrity used to mean something. A man’s word was his bond. Now, a promise or a statement of fact are reneged as swiftly as the conditions warrant. Perhaps, I am too rigid in my thinking, but if I can’t trust the other side, why would I want to listen to anything that they say?

Why indeed, Steve?

UPDATE:

Disclaimer: Before the obvious retort of “The left does it too!!” is thrown at me, I wanted to tell you that I’m completely aware of it.  I’ve had lefties inform me that people who are in favor of the war are basically in favor of killing and not worthy of being listened to, and that Republicans are all anti-family.  This is not a left or right kind of problem.  It’s just intellectual laziness, and it’s equally palpable on both sides.

2 Responses to “Living in a World Without Thought”

  1. Steve Says:

    I disagree with your premise. I don’t think of leftists as evil. And not that I use the term leftist rather than liberal, because much that is done under the banner of liberalism is not.
    Most of my coworkers consider themselves liberal Democrats, and I am married to one. My biggest problem with them is that they are more interested in feeling good about doing something, than actually accomplishing anything. If there was a program that would actually accomplish whatever it was that they set out to do, I could support it. But since the Rural Electrification Agency, I see more problems created than solved.
    Now, on the other hand, I do have some problems with my Republican friends as well. But that is more based on their lack of awareness of what poor people go through. It’s not that they are evil, but that they can live their lives oblivious to those problems.
    In an ideal world, Republicans would be more aware and willing to take a chance on someone by giving them a job. And the poor would respond by doing a good job.
    But I don’t see how the government is ever going to accomplish that. Instead, it seems to want to take the job creation money from the Republican, and create a ward of the state who will be expected to vote Democratic.
    None of which will maximize personal ability or achievement.

  2. Steve T. Says:

    Thanks for responding, Steve. The very fact that you wrote such a lengthy response goes against my original point, but aren’t you changing your tune a bit?

    I agree with most of what you said in your comment, but none of that was in your original post. Your post linked to a boneheaded article by a guy who took the findings from a survey… no, wait a minute, the guy who did the “survey” just looked at a few generally available public opinion polls and gleened all the numbers he could out of them that worked towards his point.

    Anyways, the guy in the article takes these “results” and decides that he knows the answers as to why they turned out the way they did. You repeat these “findings” in your post and go on to say that liberals are (generally) untrustworthy and not worth listening to.

    So, I’m thinking you’re showing your more reasonable side in the comment thread here, which I appreciate, but your post is still complete crap, and you haven’t done much to dissuade me from that… which really was my premise.


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